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作者: MightyDragon 時間: 2014-1-13 08:13 AM 標題: 意大利海軍58億歐元新艦採購計劃

多功能護衛艦是許多國家海軍的選擇：能適應不同任務靈活調配。似乎連護衛艦都上相控陣雷達已經成為趨勢(意大利海軍的目標艦上的是Selex ES公司的Unimast相控陣雷達)，配合巡航導彈、艦載直升機等，對一般巡邏任務可以保證有足夠的火力。防空上紫菀（Aster 30）垂發防空導彈就比較遜色了，圖片甚至缺少近程防禦武器系統...

Source: DefenseNews
Original Title: Italy Plans €6B Ship Buy - Designs for New Multipurpose Vessel Released

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Italy has funding to buy as many as eight new multipurpose ships, although it wants to buy 12. This is the latest design of the still-evolving vessel. (Italian Navy)

ROME — The Italian Navy has secured funding for 10 large ships it plans to build rapidly over the next decade as the bulk of the current fleet goes out of service, the head of the Navy told Defense News in an interview.

Italy’s 2014 state budget, approved in late December, contains a €5.8 billion (US $7.8 billion) funding package for the new vessels, mainly a new multipurpose ship conceived by Navy planners to fight wars as well as handle humanitarian relief operations.

“There are funds to build 10 vessels, possibly meaning eight multipurpose ships, one amphibious ship and a logistics vessel,” said Navy chief Adm. Giuseppe De Giorgi, who added the Navy had an eventual requirement for 12 multipurpose ships.

“I am satisfied with the budget law,” he said. “This gives us some oxygen.”

This year, De Giorgi said, he hopes to sign contracts for the multipurpose ships, — the design of which is still evolving. The work will likely go to Italian shipyard Fincantieri.

Construction of the first vessel would take two years, with a launch in three, delivery in four and entry into service in five years. “We would like to see all of them in service within a decade,” he said.

The €5.8 billion funding will not all go to the Navy. Under a system used in Italy for other large procurement programs, the government will take out bank loans to fund the program, then release the €5.8 billion over a number of years to repay the loans with interest.

De Giorgi said stripping off the interest repayments, the Navy would have about €4.5 billion to spend. With the multipurpose ships costing around €350 million each, the money might cover the 10 vessels, as well as two smaller minesweepers, he said.

The amphibious ship would replace one of three aging landing platform dock vessels and make good on a procurement plan for such a vessel that has been on standby for a number of years.

De Giorgi said the new buys needed to be finalized “as soon as possible,” adding that 50 of the Navy’s 60 vessels will go out of service in the next decade.

One analyst said that because the Navy received a large amount of funds for fleet renewal in the 1970s, it is no coincidence that many ships are heading out of service around the same time, making a second round of large investment essential.

“Without these new funds, Admiral De Giorgi would have managed to find money for one or two vessels at best through normal funding channels and thus go into a dangerous block obsolescence,” said retired Rear Adm. Michele Cosentino, a naval analyst and writer.

De Giorgi has ordered the initial design work to be done in-house, masterminding the concept work with Navy designers, rather than giving a development contract to Fincantieri, a move he said would save money and speed up the construction.

“We have returned to how the Navy did things in the 1970s and 1980s,” he said.

The baseline design offers two cannons — a 127mm gun in the bow and a 76mm gun at the stern — along with a hangar for two NH90 helicopters, the option of carrying containers or small boats on deck, and a varying number of launch cells for the Aster 30 missile. Some of the vessels could mount the Scalp Naval missile, or as an alternative, the Tomahawk cruise missile, he said.

To reach 35 knots, a water jet could be added to the traditional propulsion, De Giorgi said. Moving at that speed with containers piled on board would not threaten the stability of the vessel, he added.

Cosentino pointed out that the three innovative aspects of the design are the integrated mast, grouping radar, infrared, communications and electronic warfare; the mission bay under the flight deck, which will house small boats, both manned and unmanned; and an integrated bridge that replaces the traditional combat information center. “These three concepts have not been tried in Italy before,” he said.

Renderings released by the Navy show the design is evolving. One design features the flight deck ending short of the stern of the vessel to make room for the 76mm gun, another shows it extending to the stern with no gun.

Early designs featured the integrated mast, known as the Unimast, now being offered by Italy’s Selex ES, which combines numerous functions while overcoming the typical problems of signal interference. The Unimast, with its radar composed of fixed arrays, is due to be installed on future multimission frigates (FREMMs), replacing the current Empar radar.

One recent design of the multipurpose ship did not, however, include the mast and shows various emitters, including the fixed array radar, integrated into the bridge structure.

“By doing that, we could make maintenance of the various components easier,” De Giorgi said.

Apart from finding funding for its multipurpose ships, the Navy has also recently received funds to order its seventh and eighth FREMMs, part of a planned order of 10. The two vessels will be general purpose variants, an industrial source said, and the eighth will offer the Unimast, De Giorgi said.

Both will offer an increase of 3 to 4 knots in diesel cruising, up from the current 16 knots, he said. When ordered, the ninth and tenth FREMMs may mount the Scalp Naval missile, he added.

作者: li159 時間: 2014-1-13 09:18 AM

意大利不是和法國一起搞了FREMM級和水平線級驅逐艦？怎麼又獨立設計了？不過我猜最後數量也只會裝備個位數而已。

作者: 小誣 時間: 2014-1-13 12:36 PM

意大利....說道意大利就想到他在2戰時的搞笑..
武器不錯但他門人就...

作者: 璿云 時間: 2014-1-13 01:26 PM

土共看到這個新聞有沒有很心動.趕快去搶定單吧.不要認為不可能.只要去搶.必然引起歐美一陣批評.土共再回應幾天.把新聞做大.對將來任何兵器銷售更有利.何況意大利未必沒跟土共借錢

作者: tjw_922 時間: 2014-1-13 02:32 PM

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作者: 憤怒的搬磚工 時間: 2014-1-13 03:15 PM

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作者: 賀立康 時間: 2014-1-13 06:42 PM

義大利的債務問題不是很嚴重嗎?哪來的錢買?

作者: d5330526 時間: 2014-1-13 07:55 PM

感覺上新型艦越造越簡潔，當然也增加了許多匿綜效果...

作者: whr199639 時間: 2014-1-13 09:00 PM

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作者: earlyonautumn 時間: 2014-1-13 09:57 PM

以前一直只知道義大利是黑手黨眾多的國家~最近才知道義大利的科技其實很先進的

作者: 流浪皮卡丘 時間: 2014-1-13 11:12 PM

義大利好歹也是G7國家.感覺他們的國防好像不是很強.是因為沒有假想敵嗎?還是只靠北約就好了?

作者: manchuhou 時間: 2014-1-14 09:32 AM

意大利海軍並不弱，在北約國家中，排除掉美國的話，英國法國意大利是前三強啊

作者: li159 時間: 2014-1-14 09:36 AM

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流浪皮卡丘發表於 2014-1-13 11:12 PM
義大利好歹也是G7國家.感覺他們的國防好像不是很強.是因為沒有假想敵嗎?還是只靠北約就好了? ...

也算不錯了，意大利的海軍除了沒核潛艇（沒需要）該有的都有了，輕航母都有兩艘，先進驅逐艦也不少，冷戰的時候意大利航母就是限制蘇聯的黑海艦隊在地中海活動，再說意大利的OTO76炮可是很出名的。

作者: kc045432 時間: 2014-1-14 11:45 AM

流浪皮卡丘發表於 2014-1-13 11:12 PM
義大利好歹也是G7國家.感覺他們的國防好像不是很強.是因為沒有假想敵嗎?還是只靠北約就好了? ...

義大利的出名軍事裝備廠商也是有只是不知道義大利國防好像只要防的住希臘就好了

作者: yyhsxq 時間: 2014-1-14 01:45 PM

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作者: firekuo3472 時間: 2014-1-14 05:02 PM

kc045432 發表於 2014-1-14 11:45 AM
義大利的出名軍事裝備廠商也是有只是不知道義大利國防好像只要防的住希臘就好了 ...

希臘都破產了，在南歐地區最強應該就是義大利了！

作者: uniekun1 時間: 2014-1-14 09:07 PM

tjw_922 發表於 2014-1-13 02:32 PM
其實現在意大利軍隊在北約演習中的表現比德國强得多。所以大家不要拿舊眼光看人喲。 ...

以現在歐盟的制度來說, 德國軍隊的實力只要保持在一定水平就可以了, 就算真的有戰爭, 歐盟以現的狀況來說, 除了英, 法, 德3國外, 其他國家不能獨力生存, 所以德國只要能提供金錢和武器, 國土就自然有人來守護.(個人見解...)

作者: tjw_922 時間: 2014-1-15 08:42 AM

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作者: saleaark 時間: 2014-1-19 12:43 AM

義大利是因為大還海時代之前的遺產嗎
不過這篇實在太專業了
我一點都看不懂
乖乖滾走

作者: uniekun1 時間: 2014-1-19 01:37 AM

tjw_922 發表於
德國的整体國家戰略依然發生巨大改變，開始走用經濟力量實現國家權力與利益的道路。

但是，軍事力量的羸 ...

但是德國在歐洲的科技還是頂尖的, 不論是軍用, 還是民用

作者: robin0803 時間: 2014-1-19 08:51 AM

哇真的棒阿真希望台灣也可以有這樣的經費去買武器阿

作者: tjw_922 時間: 2014-1-19 11:18 AM

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作者: uniekun1 時間: 2014-1-19 03:41 PM

tjw_922 發表於 2014-1-19 11:18 AM
現在德國的軍武科技嚴重的偏科，完整度比起德國和英國來說，差的太多了。 ...

但是歐盟科技就英法德3國最好, 加上經濟實力的話, 無疑德國在歐洲的地位會變得高, 更重要.

作者: sos155 時間: 2014-1-19 03:55 PM

非常簡潔的設計，美感也超棒，

義大利人的設計真不是蓋的！！！

作者: tadc 時間: 2014-1-19 08:24 PM

怪怪義大利不是經濟狀況也不太好最近海軍真的建造超多軍艦的 FREMM 水平線還有航母兩棲登陸艦現在又有新計畫?! 還是為了讓船廠不斷炊阿 ??

作者: rafale92 時間: 2014-1-21 09:32 AM

義大利的近迫武器系統直接仰賴艦砲及可編程彈藥,在FREMM上也是如此

作者: 杨大喵 時間: 2014-1-21 09:13 PM

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作者: 杨大喵 時間: 2014-1-21 09:16 PM

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作者: uniekun1 時間: 2014-1-25 05:34 PM

楊大喵發表於 2014-1-21 09:16 PM
元首當年想用軍事手段整合一盤散沙的歐洲，結果失敗了。現在的德國用經濟武器來統治歐洲，雖然還未成功， ...

變到好像古代的分封時代, 是進化了的分封時代, 或者說是一個大國跟一群小國組成聯合... 大國可以離棄小國, 小國遠離不了大國.

作者: handpig1234 時間: 2014-1-27 12:25 AM

義大利OTO生產的127mm及76mm砲都被拿來補足防空用途了
這艘艦沒另外設置近迫防空系統也是因為這個因素吧?

作者: as445588 時間: 2014-3-22 01:41 PM

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作者: tadc 時間: 2014-4-18 03:26 PM

跟FREMM相比這款算是輕量級吧也比較能生產多一些不過這噸位台灣剛剛好適合說~~

肖想中阿~~

作者: love0937549525 時間: 2014-12-15 04:37 PM

五十八億和成新台幣已經是天文數字了！！
義大利還真是捨得花重金購買。。

作者: love0986033732 時間: 2014-12-18 04:07 PM

58億歐元合成台幣已經是天文數字了
不過擁有最新的武器也不賴

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